"No, we did not...and I do no think my brother did either." Although Clive doesn't remember Origin happening for him, since it had yet to occur.

"The last thing I remember is passing in my brothers arms...there was no saving me. Yet, when I woke up here, I was completely healed. There remains no trace of the curse on my body as well. This is not the case for my friend however - his body still retained parts of the curse. I find it all very curious indeed."